Episode 7
Vic and Jayne - Sober, Alcohol Free Stories and finding your tribe
Today I talk to Jayne about some of her best tools, how the reality of telling friends and family that she was no longer drinking was way easier than she anticipated, and how without alcohol her future is full of promise because she has more time and energy to invest in herself!
Transcript
hi, everybody.
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:I'm Victoria and I don't drink.
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:Tonight, I'm going to be
talking to Jane about how she
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:immersed herself in Quitline.
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:Whitley and podcasts and found
herself a new saber family who.
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:Who gave her just what she needed
to help ditch the booze and go
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:on to change her life image.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Hi Jane.
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:It's lovely to see you tonight.
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:How are you?
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
Oh, good.
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:Thank you.
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:Nice to see you
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604:
Nice to see you too.
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:Yes.
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:We hear from each other quite
a lot on WhatsApp, don't we?
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:But it's nice to actually see you as well.
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:So for people listening, we're on a
little webcam here so we can see each
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:other even though you can't see us.
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:But it is lovely because we live in
very different parts of the country,
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:so it's good to be able to get
together even virtually like this.
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:Jane, thank you for coming on to
support me with this venture to try
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:and help other people out there who,
maybe feeling a bit like you did when
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:you made the decision to stop drinking
or in the months leading up to that.
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:So what I want to do this evening
is just ask you to tell your story.
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:And then we'll see where we go with
that and some of your challenges and
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:bits and bobs, but if I can just hand
over to you, so if you tell us a bit
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:about you and then where this alcohol
free story began, that would be great.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
If you were to go onto my Soapbarista's
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:members page, it would say that
I've been a member for 10 years.
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:But actually, I've been
off the booze for four.
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:So I've been questioning my
alcohol intake quite a long time
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:googling, am I drinking too much,
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:but I think my story goes back a lot
longer because I think I, started drinking
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:about when I was in my teens, about 14.
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:And I was always up for a laugh.
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:I was drinking more than anybody else.
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:Everybody called me a funny drunk,
really matter so much that I was
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:drinking so much to everybody else.
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:It was never a problem for anybody
else, probably a problem for me.
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:Apart from later on in life when my
husband was having to put me to bed
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:or deal with all that aftermath.
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:But early doors, no, it wasn't, it was
just, I was a, I was up for a laugh.
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:And so anyway, if we fast forward
a little bit when I started
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:Googling am I drinking too much?
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:I think probably my story starts
in:
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:And I'd always done these
months and everybody said,
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:Oh, you've done really well.
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:You're off the booze for a month.
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:And I'm thinking, I don't have a problem.
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:I can do a month.
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:What's the big issue?
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:But what happened with this last one
I've noticed was that I did Did Sober
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:October, and then in November, I drank
twice as much, so I drank my October's
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:quota in November as, alongside November.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604:
You made up for it.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
Yeah, so making up for it.
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:So then Christmas came and then
I decided to do oh, that was it,
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:Christmas, we went out for a Christmas
night out, and there was somebody
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:there that I'd stopped drinking.
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:I was absolutely, I was fascinated by it.
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:I was asking her questions while
drinking me red wine, all about
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:her story and why she'd given up.
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:And it wasn't that
she'd had a rock bottom.
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:It was that I think it was a
brother that had alcohol problems
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:and she she just had enough of it.
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:She said, I was coming in every night.
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:I was making tea and I was
drinking starting then.
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:I was.
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:buying red wine to put in the spag bowl,
and then I'd finish the bottle myself.
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:And
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:She was, and it was just like
like I say, not a rock bottom,
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:just she, it was creeping up.
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:Anyway, I found, anyway, she, she
recommended a book to me, and I
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:think it was Alcohol Lied to Me.
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:But I'd already ordered Sober Diaries,
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Okay.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
that as well.
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:Christmas came usual
booze filled Christmas.
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:So then I decided to do dry
January, did dry January.
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:And my husband was asking me
we would, we booked to go to
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:Liverpool on the 1st of February.
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:And he was talking about drinking when
we got there and I said, Oh I might not.
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:I might do this a bit differently.
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:longer.
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:And we said, Oh if that's
the case, that's fine.
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:So we went to Liverpool, but then
we go to the cavern club and I
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:can't go in the cavern club and not
have a beer I'm in the cavern club.
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:And then we had a meal after we had half
a bottle of wine, of wine between us.
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:And then I stopped and I
thought, I can do this.
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:I can moderate.
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:And then it creeped up and it
creeped up and then lockdown happened
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:because this was 2020 by now.
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:And that was just, every
night was Friday night.
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:It was just more and more.
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:It was getting more than
I'd ever drank before.
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:So it was getting up to, it was
getting up to two bottles of wine.
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:And in one night.
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:And I started listening to podcasts then,
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:Everybody went out for
the walk, didn't they?
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:In lockdown.
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:To alcohol free podcasts.
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:And then I read Annie Grace and The Naked
Mind, and that was just a game changer.
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:It got
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yep.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
head.
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:It just made me think completely different
to anything I'd ever read before.
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:And I can remember sat in Asda car park,
reading it on my Kindle, because we'd
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:gone to collect my daughter from uni.
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:Reading it on my Kindle and
deciding at that moment I'm going
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:to have a drink tonight and then
tomorrow I'm going to start.
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:And that was, so my first
th,:
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:So That's really much
my backstory drinking.
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:Sorry if it was a bit long winded Vic.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604:
No, God, no, not at all.
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:That's very short winded, actually.
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:Wow.
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:Okay.
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:So a few things that you
spoke about in there.
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:One was lockdown.
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:A few people have mentioned that.
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:On this podcast and we haven't really
gone into it in much detail, but I
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:think there's probably a lot of people
where lockdown really exacerbated the
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:amount that they were drinking because
you're so right all of a sudden.
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:There's no rules, is there really?
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:You don't even need to get dressed.
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:You can just wear your pajamas on teams.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
the panic I felt when I thought, what
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:if they stop people buying alcohol?
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:What if
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604:
so funny you say that.
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:I remember messaging one of my friends
and saying, what if it becomes an
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:issue and you can't get hold of some.
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:And between us, we kept
messaging back and forward.
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:We were trying to find a supplier of wine.
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:I've just remembered that
because you've said it.
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:And I think we found somewhere
where you could order like a whole
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:case or, and we ordered like cases.
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:Just, oh gosh, that's, I'd
completely forgotten about that.
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:But yeah, I had exactly the same panic.
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:Everyone else was wondering about
toilet roll and fruit and veg.
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:I was a bit worried about the pinot.
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:Terrible, isn't it?
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:We've all done that,
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
But like I say, I never
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:actually had a rock bottom.
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:It was more what it was doing to
me and how it was making me feel.
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:My family, it saddened my
family a bit, my drinking.
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:Not in a way that I embarrass
them, because a lot of my
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:drinking was in, in the house.
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:More that they could see that
it was making me very unhappy.
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:And I don't think, I don't think my kids,
I mean I say kids, they're grown up now.
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:I don't think they like hearing me drunk,
slurring my words, repeating myself.
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:Laughing at things that weren't funny.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604:
Definitely.
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:So what was it making you feel like then?
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:The drinking.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
Just making me forget.
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:plotting things out, things
that I've never dealt with for
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:a lot, for most of my life.
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:It's funny because I've just
recently therapy this last few months
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yeah.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
we talked about my drinking
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:and My therapist asked me, why
did you start drinking at 14?
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:And I sat there and I thought
about it and I said, I said,
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:nobody's ever asked me that before.
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:And I said, and to be honest,
I just thought it was because
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:what everybody else was doing.
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:When I look back at that time,
there was a lot going on.
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:There was, my dad was poorly.
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:Had to work seven days a week.
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:She used to work at a local public
school, so it was open a lot
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:longer than our average schools.
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:She was working seven days a week.
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:And
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:it was quite when I think back,
it was quite a tough time.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yeah.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
So I think it was escapism.
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:it started very young for me
that was the habit that I used to
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:escape and just block things out
and just try and forget about it.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: It's
very common, isn't it, for it to be
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:used in that way as something to just
Yeah, I have so far not had any therapy.
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:Although everybody does advocate
it's a great thing to do when you've
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:stopped drinking because underneath
there's probably a reason somewhere
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:where you did drink too much.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
Yeah.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: think
back to when I first started and I was
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:14, I think I do have some thoughts
of loneliness and trying to fit in
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:and wanting people to like me and it
did give me a different confidence
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:to what I had every day at school.
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:And I wonder if that was
something to do with the, teaching
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:myself, this is a good thing.
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:And then, obviously the same story as
most people, it carries on into adulthood
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:and then it got a bit out of hand.
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:Yeah, it's worth exploring that.
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:I think I might go for the old
therapy route at some point as
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:well when I'm ready to face it all.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
Yeah.
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:And also, don't be put off if you
don't get the right therapist, because
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:I've had a few goes at therapy and
they've not always were, but this last
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:one, this, and it's a man, which, it's
the first time I've had a guy and.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Okay,
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
He's been brilliant.
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:He's been, he's absolutely brilliant.
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:In fact, he's just got
a promotion as well.
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:He'll
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: right.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603: on
in January, but it's just think that I
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:don't know whether that's a factor for me.
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:I don't know.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604:
Yeah you're sure you'll explore
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:it all with your therapist.
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:I'm not going to ask you to talk
about all of that for everybody but
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:needless to say, it was, you were
probably trying to get away from
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:something that wasn't quite right.
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:And I think that's quite a
familiar story for lots of people.
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:So you read the couple of books,
you decided you were going to stop.
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:You had your final night,
you got up in the morning.
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:What was that like?
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:And what did you do?
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
I just,
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:because I think about the April,
I think I tried the hundred day
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:And I fell about day 10, day
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:I might have got to 14, I don't know.
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:And so I didn't sign up for
the hundred day straight away.
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:I
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:See how we're going.
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:I think it got to about day
14, and then I signed up.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: right.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
And just trying to think.
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:what was the question, Vic?
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604:
So what did you do?
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603: I
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604:
what did you do?
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:So what, how did you approach it?
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:Did you get up and think I'm going to
go out for a walk or I'm gonna, what did
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:you do and how did you feel that morning?
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:Because you knew it was going to change.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
just thought this is it.
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:This is my day one, and
I'm going to go for it.
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:And I just kept, because I hadn't
finished reading Any Grace.
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:I carried on reading that.
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:Listened to every podcast
that I could possibly find,
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yeah.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
everything, and I just completely
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:consumed my whole life.
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:It was easy for me to do at that
point because it was lockdown.
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:You had to a lot of time.
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:So I just read and I just consumed
my whole life being alcohol free.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yeah.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
I started journaling.
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:Yeah, I think that was it at that point.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: And
you were a member of Sober Easter's
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:then, obviously then, because you were
talking about the hundred day thread.
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:So you remember, did you have any
connections that you, because now
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:we have a WhatsApp group that I
joined right at the beginning of my
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:journey and that really helped me.
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:Did you have anything like that back then?
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:Yeah,
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
but it got to about the, it got to
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:about August and I got a message off off
Nick saying, we're going to try Zoom.
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:Are you interested?
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:And I thought, yeah, I am.
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:I, because we weren't seeing anybody.
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:So it was like, God, that'd be great.
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:Cause I hadn't noticed on there that they
used to organize meetups, but obviously
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:they stopped doing that because of COVID.
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:Situation we were in.
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:So yeah, we did that first Zoom it was
just I was so nervous and I thought,
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:oh God, what they're gonna think of me.
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:And musketeers.
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:Were formed that very day.
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:And it was me lovely
Elizabeth, Alan and Nick.
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:And it was just magical.
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:People have come and gone over that
time, but us four have There was
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:just connection that you can have
with people that you will never ever
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:meet in real life because you've
just your lifestyles are poles apart.
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:But and some countries apart as well, can
we say and you just, you automatically
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:click and it's quite bizarre actually
because all your differences and all your
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:Your background, it just doesn't matter at
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: no,
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
it's yeah.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604:
it's very special, isn't it?
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
It's special.
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:Yeah.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: I've been
really lucky to have ended up, landed in
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:this WhatsApp group, which now probably
has about, 30 people may be in it now.
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:I don't even know.
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:Obviously some people dip in and out
and some use it more than others.
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:And some use the Zooms more than others.
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:but there is something about this
particular group and maybe it happens
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:with also the connections, I don't know.
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:But it feels like a family.
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:And I know that sounds really cheesy.
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:I know when I say it out loud, it sounds
cheesy, but it's very true because like
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:you say, these aren't necessarily people
that you would meet, let alone, choose in
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:real life because you wouldn't, you might
not think you had anything in common.
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:But the one thing that connects
us all is actually something
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:that is critical to who we are.
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:Like the,
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
Yeah.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: And
the acceptance of one another and the
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:understanding and the non-judgmental.
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:feeling that we have for one another.
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:There's nothing you could say that
you've done in this group or with
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:people who have also tried probably to
be sober that, that people will judge
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:you for because they'll just get it.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
And I know that I can say
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:anything I want to, any of you, and
it just won't, it doesn't matter.
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:It's, no matter how bad it's
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:Because, you're given the space
to talk and just just offload.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yeah.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
Somebody's always there
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:with some great advice.
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:And sometimes something you
already know, but it's, Oh, why
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:haven't I done that for ages?
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yeah.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
That really worked in the early days.
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:Why don't I do that?
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:Why does it take somebody
else to tell me that?
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:Because you forget, don't you?
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yeah.
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:Oh, yeah.
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:It's easy to forget.
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:And also once you've been doing
it for a long time and you've been
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:doing it for a very long time,
it's it's almost second nature.
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:So if it does sneak up on you and the
Wine Witch appears or, you're having
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:a bad day or a bad week or whatever
it might be, it's sometimes hard
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:to remember what those tools were.
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:That really got you through
the beginning bit, which segues
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:me nicely into challenges.
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:So what do you think is the
biggest challenge you face
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:when you make the decision?
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:I'm not doing this anymore because
it is not making me very happy.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
that's easy.
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:Friends and family.
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:It's not that I've had experiences
with my friends and family about
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:my drinking, but it's the thought
of having to tell them originally.
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:You're thinking, Oh God,
what are they going to think?
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:Obviously me, your immediate, my
husband and kids, they were fine.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yeah.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
it's then, your best mates, your
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:drinking buddies, your work colleagues,
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:your, like your extended family, like
your brothers and your sisters and your
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:aunts and your uncles, it's all that
was really, that was a big deal for me.
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:on I think it was only about a
week, I think it was about eight
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:weeks, Yeah, about a weekend I had
an outdoor drinks thing because
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:obviously lockdown, so we were
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:I'm going to go about this because
they're going to expect me to drink.
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:I don't drive, so I couldn't drive,
nobody was going to the doctors,
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:so I couldn't say antibiotics.
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:So I thought, oh, I'm
going to be honest here.
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:I told them.
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:I was having a break from drinking
and they were absolutely wonderful.
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:I actually, I told my best friend when we
went for a walk because I knew that this
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:drinks thing was coming up she was fine.
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:then my other two friends, I
just said, I'm having a break.
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:I said, it's crept up in lockdown.
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:Just wanna cut it out for a bit.
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:And that was it.
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:And then it just got about, so this was,
so this would have been the July, August.
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:it was the it was in the October, I'd
helped my best friend moving into a home.
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:And, we were, she was, she had
all these bottles of champagne and
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:sparkling wine and all that stuff.
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:And she went, oh, she went, I look
like I've got a problem, don't I?
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:And I went, no, because if you'd
have had a problem, you wouldn't
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:have had anything in your wine rack.
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:She said, let me tell you, because that's
what my wine rack was always empty.
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:She
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604:
good point.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
This is it for you, isn't it?
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:You're not going to drink anymore.
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:And I went, no, that's it.
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:And I would dread in telling her cause
I'd said, I'm just having a break.
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:I think it in the back of my
mind that they're always going
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:to expect me to start again.
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:She just said, this is
it for you, isn't it?
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:And I said, yeah, I said I'm done with it.
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:I said, I can't unlearn everything
that I found out about alcohol.
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:And That was pretty much it.
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:My family were brilliant.
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:Yeah.
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:So I didn't, all the fear was
for nothing because everybody,
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:two comments in the four years
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:A boring comment or,
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Oh, yeah.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
invite you, but you're
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:not drinking, are you?
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Oh, wow.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
Yeah.
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:But that's about it.
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:That's all I've had in all that time.
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:And I think that's pretty good, really,
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yeah.
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:That is good.
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:My best friend she was the first person
that I told, actually, I rung her.
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stop and I told her and she knows me well.
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in that moment when I rung her,
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because I was, quite a party girl.
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floor, all of that stuff with her.
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with the champagne when she was trying
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just moment of disappointment and then
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we're together, we have a right laugh.
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:It doesn't matter whether
Vic's drinking or not.
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afterwards about feeling like that.
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Was worried about missing who I was.
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the kind of party side of myself.
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:Like I, there have been occasions
where I've thought, Oh, she was fun,
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it's when it went too far or, if I
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and the next day that I, I had some
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:It just made me feel
horrendous about myself.
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proper failure actually.
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party girl to let this one survive.
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better since I've done it.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603: no,
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: No.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
It, people though also haven't got that
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:person that they, it's somebody jeering
them on oh go on, come on, have a drink.
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:They then know that if they drink,
or drink a lot, it's the light
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:shine, you, they can't say oh Vic,
was out with Vic and you know what
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:she's like she pushes you into it.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yes.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
that excuse then, have
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yeah.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
to take ownership of their
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yeah.
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:The little mirror thing is definitely a
thing, if people protest too much, I think
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
Yeah.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604:
lucky too, though, Jane.
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:Honestly, I haven't lost friends
really through this at all.
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cause I have heard people say
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stop getting invited to things.
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reality for some people.
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:It can I've been very lucky.
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like your biggest challenge ended up
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very accepting and supported you.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
Yeah.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: It
should be what we expect really, isn't it?
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
Yeah.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604:
Great role modeling.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
Yeah.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yeah.
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:And so what about all the good stuff?
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:All my good stuff.
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on the app, on the blogs.
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:I'm always rambling on about all
the brilliant way that I feel
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:And what about you?
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:So what's been the most positive
outcomes from becoming sober
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
Just realizing that there was more
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had to revolve around drinking.
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:If we went on days out or night, not
nights out, weekends away, should I say,
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yeah.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
enough drink with us?
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:When would we be drinking?
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:Yeah, we're going around castle
today, but that's all very well,
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yeah.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603: And
then I remember going on my first holiday,
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England, but everything about it
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experiencing life properly and
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yeah.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
properly, rather than thinking about.
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to just go through the motions in the
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:day and not really take much in, which
is a shame, because I've been to some
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yeah.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
there's that's a positive, and also
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who I am, and my capabilities,
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much no qualifications at all, and
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yeah.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
would definitely not have come had it
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: There's
definitely a confidence that comes
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:And also, I don't know
if it's just confidence.
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:I think there's a fearlessness
that comes from this.
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:You lean into life a
little bit more, don't you?
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:And think what's the
worst that can happen?
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:And we're so proud of you for all of
your, Studies in your achievements.
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:Whenever you post anything it's so
good to see that like progression.
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:From all of us, from everyone on the
group, whenever there's something,
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and there's a bit of you that always
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happened if you weren't here and
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
nothing like stopping drinking and
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and you're thinking if I can
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every obstacle that you come across, you
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604:
That's so true.
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:To just, against all of society's
norms, against everything that you
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:were doing before, probably some very
strong neural pathways that were, that,
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all those occasions you talked about,
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:to get through that and actually start
to enjoy absolutely everything the way
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:I love it.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
Thank you.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604:
Jane, our half hour is up.
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:Can you believe it?
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603: it?
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:That's gone quick, hasn't
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604:
Hasn't it?
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:I know.
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:It just zooms past.
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:Any top tip from you?
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:If somebody's thinking about
stopping, what would you say to them?
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
Just go for it,
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:Got to, like I said right at
the beginning, you've got to
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yeah.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
Going to read everything, I'm going
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start writing down how I'm feeling.
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a visit from what we like to call the
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:wine witch, down why she's visiting
and why are you feeling like that?
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what can I do instead?
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:And have yourself a little list
of self care tips that you can,
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:plow your way through she's gone.
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:Just, you've just got to
immerse your whole life in it.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yeah.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
but do it.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604: Yeah,
invest all the time and effort that you
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:It sounds like that's what you're saying.
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:And that's actually what
I had to do as well.
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:I changed my addiction to.
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:Being addicted to not drinking and
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
know.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604:
and that was it.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
Yeah.
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:vic-host354_1_10-21-2024_180604:
Oh thank you so much.
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:Thank you for telling your story.
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:There will be someone out there who's
thinking I'm going to do it now.
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:And it will be because
you shared your story.
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:I really appreciate it.
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:squadcaster-h695_1_10-21-2024_180603:
Okay.
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:You're welcome.
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:Bye.
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