Episode 1
Vic and Beth, Sober, alcohol free stories and being "dramatic"
Hi everybody and welcome to Sober Alcohol Free Stories. I'm Victoria and I don't drink. Today I talk to Beth. Beth's story will resonate with so many drinking, a bottle of wine a day. Didn't feel quite enough for the support groups that Beth had tried to stop drinking with. And 10 months into her sobriety, Beth convinced herself that she had control.... Then lockdown happens. The rest is Beth's story to tell.
Transcript
Hi everybody and welcome to
Sober Alcohol Free Stories.
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:I'm Victoria and I don't drink.
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:Today I talk to Beth.
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:Beth's story will resonate with so
many drinking, a bottle of wine a day.
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:Didn't feel quite enough for
the support groups that Beth
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:had tried to stop drinking with.
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:And 10 months into her sobriety, Beth
convinced herself that she had control.
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:Then lockdown happens.
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:The rest is Beth's story to tell.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
welcome Beth, this evening.
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:It's lovely to speak with you.
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:It's exciting because this is the first
in the series, first of series three.
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:So no pressure.
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:I've also got a bit of a croaky
voice 'cause I'm just recovering
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:from a virus, so excuse me if
I sound a little bit raspy.
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:It's I haven't been smoking or anything.
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:It's just my poor old throat.
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:Beth in the, podcast, just like my guests
to come on and just share the story, of
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:their sober living, so you know, what
happened, who were you, before you decided
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:to stop drinking, and what were the sort
of sliding doors moments that made you
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:think, this perhaps isn't for me anymore,
and led you to the decision to stop.
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:And then we'll maybe talk about some of
the tools that you might have used, things
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:that were successful so that anyone that's
listening who feels like they're a little
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:bit like you were, can think, right?
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:She's done it, and that means
that I can probably do it.
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:So it's just really to support other
people to get to where you are,
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:and to hear about your wonderful
life now that you are sober.
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:So, I'll hand over to you and just
ask you what I ask all of my guests.
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:If you could just tell us your story.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Brilliant.
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:Thank you.
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:It's lovely to be here.
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:I've always had a bit of a
tricky relationship with alcohol.
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:I've always loved it, loved it way
too much, and I, well it's strange
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:actually because I haven't, when I
was a child, in the seventies you,
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:your parents would let you have a
drink of alcohol and it was a joke
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:how much I hated the taste of alcohol.
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:Could not stand it, but
I worked hard at it.
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:And in, you know, when I was a teenager,
we all started drinking at:
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:I just found that whenever I drank, I was
always the one who was the most drunk.
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:I was the one who got into
trouble, but obviously.
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:It didn't stop me.
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:I carried on.
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:and I would say that although I used to
get into trouble when I was out drinking,
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:and by that I mean that I used to have
stupid ideas, you know, and I would
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:be the person that had to be on the
karaoke because I was the best singer.
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:I was the best dancer.
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:I'm a terrible dancer.
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:and then I was also argumentative.
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:You know, the taxi rank.
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:I'm from Durham.
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:Originally and my friends used to
panic because for some reason I had
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:to think about trying to have fights.
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:I mean, you know, I was this little tiny
blonde girl thinking she could fight
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:men, and that was just me and alcohol
and I'm not like that in real life.
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:Um, and so, you know.
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:Then I went off to university and that's
when, you know, the big drinking started.
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:And I remember quite early on
in uni thinking I haven't gone
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:a day without alcohol, and
everything revolved around it.
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:And again, I was the one that ended
up in hospital falling downstairs,
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:you know, getting into trouble.
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:Always the one that made
an absolute fool of myself.
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:And I could remember at university one
day, you know, just sitting there and
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:thinking, there's so many people that
only know drunk Beth and she's awful.
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:And I wish people knew me when I was
sober because I'm nothing like that.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Mm-hmm.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: So for
me, I always knew that the way I
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:drank was different to other people.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: I was never
one of those people, you know, even
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:then, I couldn't understand people
who would just have one glass of
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:wine because to me I was like, well,
that's like having an itch and just
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:blowing on it instead of scratching it.
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:you want to have the bottle.
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:I never understood that and it was not.
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:Interesting to me to have just
a small amount of alcohol.
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:And so when I left university and
I moved down south, I would say my
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:drinking did start to become an issue.
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:I was very, very lonely.
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:I was, living in a house on my own.
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:I had a really good job.
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:So I'd do that during the day, come home
to a, a house alone, and I did start
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:drinking just bottles of wine on my own
because I was, I was lonely, I was bored.
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:and again, every time I went out, I
was the one that was the most drunk.
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:I was the one that would fall
over and it was exhausting.
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:And then I got, married, had
children, and then this is
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:where I'd say that I probably.
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:Started to slip into gray area drinking
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Mm-hmm.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: it was, you
know, most nights I would have a bottle
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:of wine, and my argument would be, well
it's been stressful with the kids, or it's
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:stressful managing work and the children.
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:And then, you know, and I would
say it in ways that it didn't seem,
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:such a big deal, like I would say to
him, well, it's my ex-husband now.
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:But I would say to him, you
know, oh, just a little glass of
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:wine just to make a joke of it.
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:When he knew I meant.
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:A bottle and he was
quite a big drinker too.
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:And then we kind of, everything
sort of carried on like this.
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:We split up.
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:That was very stressful.
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:So my drinking went up again there.
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:Um, I had another baby, you know, I
got married and I'd say that the big
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:problem for me, Kim, was well, one,
I was never happy with how I drank.
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:And I'd had levels of sobriety before
I'd, you know, I had actually been to air.
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:Um.
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:But I felt like a fraud.
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:I felt like a complete fraud sitting
there because I would listen to these
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:people whose stories were so much worse
than mine and I would think they're
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:just gonna think I'm really dramatic.
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:You know, at this point I was having
a bottle of wine, but not every day.
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:But I was definitely
drinking way too much.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: but I was kind
of, I knew that I couldn't stop drinking.
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:But I didn't feel like I was at
that level, so I didn't feel like
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:I could really be too involved.
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:and also I was extremely shy at the time.
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:I had horrendous, anxiety.
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:And so I found that I
couldn't speak to people.
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:And so I would have these moments, these
lengths of sobriety I had 10 months
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:once, because I fell over and, I'd really
hurt my face and I frightened myself.
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:So I had 10 months, but then at 10
months I got really bored and the whole
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:time I was sober for the 10 months,
I was absolutely miserable about it.
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:And so, I wasn't in a community, I
wasn't talking to anybody sober, so
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:it was bound to be that the people
around me who also thought that I was
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:being a bit dramatic when I said, you
know, well I've done it for 10 months.
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:It shows I don't have a problem.
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:I can drink again because
I've stopped once, which of
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:course we know it's nonsense.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Mm-hmm.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: And
so I started drinking again.
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:And then of course lockdown happened,
which I know was an absolute
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:disaster for a lot of people.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Mm-hmm.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: I was, I
wasn't working, I was, furloughed and
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:so my husband would be working and it
was that boiling hot weather, so it
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:felt like we were on holiday and, you
know, and then, and at, and we just got,
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:You know, one of those big, lazy spas.
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:So I'd be out there, you know, and it
started at 12 o'clock I'd be drinking
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:because everybody else was, you know,
we even did Zoom calls and things with
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:work where, you know, where people
were drinking and it became normality.
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:but I found that my drinking then
spiraled and I started drinking way more
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:than I ever have, and I couldn't stop.
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:That's when I knew I was in big
trouble and you know, I just
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:didn't recognize myself anymore.
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:and that's when I knew that I
had to stop because everything
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:around us was catered to drinking.
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:You know, we were doing pub quizzes
online and the big thing was that
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:everybody would turn up with their
alcohol because it was trying to
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:keep this party atmosphere going.
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:and so I got to desperation
and I did ring, an NHS helpline
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:and the woman was great.
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:and I, because I felt like I
needed accountability because
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:when, you know, when I.
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:When I was pregnant with my son,
I smoked, but because, and I, so I
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:immediately wanted to stop smoking
and I did it with the NHS helpline.
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:they used to have a helpline.
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:I dunno if they still do, where
they kind of held you accountable.
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:So I was able to stop and stayed stopped.
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:So I felt like if I was accountable,
I would be able to stop again.
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:But of course, you know,
she couldn't do that.
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:So once I'd stopped drinking,
then they have to sign you off
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:'cause of resources and things.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Mm-hmm.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: And then,
I found a soba group online, and so I
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:joined that and I made some really good
friends and I started volunteering.
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:And the more that I spoke to other
sober people who were drinkers like
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:me, you know, they hadn't been, the
stereotypical having a drink with
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:breakfast, being out of control.
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:I hadn't had any DUIs, I
hadn't lost my children.
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:None of the stuff that people tend to.
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:Almost, it's almost like the
standpoint we've gotta go by as to
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:whether or not we've got a problem.
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:And I hadn't hit that rock bottom that I
think everybody used to think you had to
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:hit and neither had these other ladies.
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:And also what was really good
was I made friends, lady Linda,
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:she's still my best friend.
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:and so when I had questions, I was able
to ring her up and say, you know what
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:it's like at the beginning of sobriety
where your emotions are everywhere.
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:You're exhausted, all these things
you didn't know was gonna happen.
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:You're exhausted, but you can't sleep.
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:You know, all of this.
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:And I had somebody to speak
to and say, is this normal?
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:And yes, it is normal and it will pass.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
And it will go.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:And I found that as the days went
on, I got stronger and the more that
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:I volunteered and the more I spoke
to people, the more I had too much
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:to lose, to start drinking again.
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:And because everybody else who
was very positive about sobriety.
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:That was the big difference between
when I had the 10 months because when
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:I had the 10 months, I was miserable
about it and everybody around me
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:kind of agreed it must be a very
miserable existence without alcohol.
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:Whereas now I had people who
I could see that were years
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:ahead of me and had lovely lives
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:Nothing had really changed about,
apart from the fact they just don't
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:drink anymore and they don't have the
anxiety, they don't have the pressures
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:we put on ourselves when we drink.
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:Because when I used to drink, you
know, I felt like I had to be the
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:perfect mother because I wanted
to prove that I could do it all.
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:And the alcohol wasn't kind of
holding me back and, you know, and
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:I had to do well at work and, and
it just took a lot of pressure off.
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:And so.
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:You know, and I've done my social
media stuff and it's just, a lot of
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:it has been about, you know, holding
myself accountable and also just being
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:very open and honest with people.
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:when people, at first I would say, oh,
I get really bad anxiety when I drink.
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:whereas, now I tell the truth.
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:I just say, it doesn't agree with me.
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:I turn into Somebody who's not myself
I turn into a different person who
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:has stupid ideas you could have the
best night of your life ever with
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:me, or it could be the worst, and I
never know which one it's going to be.
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:And also just the fact that health wise,
I could tell my health was starting to
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:be affected by how much I was drinking.
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:And I was, you know, at the end
I was desperate and I was sore.
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:Tired.
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:I was tired of drinking, you know,
and so that's my story really.
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:It's very condensed, but you know,
I think that it's probably similar
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:to a lot of people's stories.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah, it
sounds quite similar to mine to be honest.
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:I think lots of people We're in
that gray area and we were talking
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:before we hit record, weren't we?
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:About how you can be kept there
because you don't think you are
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:bad enough and your experience
of AA sounds like something that
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:kind of fed into that because
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
do see, you know, that everybody
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:else in the world sees an alcoholic
as a a particular type of person.
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:But you also know in your heart.
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:you are not being who you want to
be because of alcohol, and there's
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:this real horrible disconnect and
it's very hard to know what to do
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:when you are there because the whole
world is telling you it's normal.
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:It's okay, but I like you.
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:Well, honestly, I was a bit
of a pain in the ass when I
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Mm.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Like
I was just not really very great.
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:I mean, my friends would probably tell
you I was an absolute who, and you
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: this
crazy girl who would, you know, go out
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:and sometimes yes, it, it was undoubtedly
fun and I did things that were fun.
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:However, a lot of times it
wasn't, and not even necessarily
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:for like a massive reason.
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:I'd lose my bag or I'd missed
the last train home, or I'd
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:send a message to someone that
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: a
way that I wished I hadn't sent it
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:to them and upset them in some way.
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:So it wasn't like doing like
really awful, awful things.
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:You know, I didn't crash a car, none of
that sort of stuff, but I just was just
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:this horrible version of myself and it
was really interesting when I stopped
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:drinking very early on, I realized I
never had to be that a person again,
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
the weirdest relief.
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:I remember literally thinking it,
thinking I'm choosing never see her again.
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:I don't have to do that.
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:I won't lose my bag.
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:Well, actually I sometimes do lose
things, but that's just because I'm
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:Yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
But yeah, that's probably not
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:the best example, I'm never ever
gonna be in that situation again.
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:And it's such a massive relief.
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:But I, like you couldn't
have done it alone.
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:I like a hundred percent
needed a community around me.
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:and I've talked about it,
those on the podcast, but I
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:actually joined sober Easters.
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:For that.
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:And they've been amazing.
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:But I also, joined some
kind of local stuff as well.
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:So there's some girls who live
locally to me and we just would
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:go for walks and catch up.
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:And it's amazing how
much you have in common
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
done this, isn't it?
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:It's just like this feeling.
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:You kind of know the person.
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:'cause you know how their soul felt when
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah,
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
made the decision.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: I was telling
you earlier that I'm on the committee
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:and volunteer now for a group called
the SOS collective, and you know, it's
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:global and so we have people from all,
well, women from all over the world.
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:From all different walks of life, and
yet we all share this one thing, which
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:it seems to bond you in a way that
you wouldn't expect it to really, but
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:it, because it's our thing, isn't it?
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:It's our thing that we've all been through
and we've all known what it was like.
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:it just makes it easier.
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:But it's quite funny 'cause you
were saying about, , the messages.
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:My big thing that I used to do as I
got older and not going out drinking,
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:like in the pubs and clubs anymore,
mine was local Facebook groups.
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:I was a nightmare.
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:Once I'd had a glass of wine, I
would be on there arguing with
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:people and, and oh my goodness.
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:And being, you know, Mrs.
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:Feminist and taking them all down.
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:one day I argued for so long The next
day when I walk up and you've got
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:the be a fear anyway, haven't you?
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:I woke up I was so paranoid, I had to
change my Facebook profile picture and I
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:changed my name 'cause I was so worried I
wore my hair in a ponytail for the week.
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:'cause I didn't normally do that.
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:I thought, what are you doing?
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:This is not a way of living that
you're making yourself paranoid
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:because of Facebook groups because
you become leery when you drink.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
That is quite funny though.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: I, it is
funny it is now, but I mean, I remember
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:'cause I changed my name to, to Beth Mt.
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:And everybody that knew me was like, are
you suddenly taking a rap or something?
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:And I'm like, no, I'm incognito.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
I just got really drunk and
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah,
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
on a local Facebook
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Oh dear.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: They find me.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
That's so funny.
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:Yeah, I think it's easy to
do stupid things, isn't it?
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:Publicly when you've had a drink, you just
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Oh
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: the
decision making process just goes,
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:and mine would go very quickly.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: yeah,
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: to
have one glass of wine and all of a
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: the
things I would absolutely not have done.
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:Sober.
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:I'd be like, oh yeah,
well that is a great idea.
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:So it is a really good
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
to get on a train and go somewhere
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:I've never been or anything.
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:Just stupid stuff
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah,
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
work dues.
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:Have that conversation with that person.
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:That's been annoying
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: uh,
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Like,
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: And I'm
just glad that I was never, you know,
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:rich, because I definitely would've
ended up in a different country.
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:You know, I'll charter that yet
everybody with me because I honestly,
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:I thought my ideas were just
the best and they were terrible.
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:Absolutely awful.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: yeah,
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: my
family's probably relieved
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:just for, for things like that.
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:But like you said, just getting
on a train somewhere, just
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: yeah.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: that my brain
worked was, well, why wouldn't you,
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:why have I not thought of this before?
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:I always used to say to my friends,
if I ever die, I want my funeral
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:song to be don't stop me now.
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:And I really meant that because
that was exactly how I felt.
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:every time it was an evening and we'd
had a few drinks, everyone else would
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:wanna be going to bed or going home
or settling down or, just go, right.
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:That's it.
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:Now the evening's done.
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:And I was said, don't stop me now.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
I'm having such a great time.
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:now I'm like, oh my God.
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:I wanna go to bed.
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:I do not want that to be
my funeral song anymore.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: No.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: I can
think of something a lot calmer, like
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:a lullaby or something might be nice.
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:But yeah, it's that invincible feeling
that you used to give yourself, but the
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:tenfold counter of that the next day
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Oh.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
had to be the reason that you stop.
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:You just, I just would feel such
anxiety, such shame, really like.
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:I'm a bad mom, I'm a bad friend.
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:All of those, I'm a bad wife.
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:I've like caused another argument about
something ridiculous I wouldn't remember
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:either sometimes because , I could lose
my memory very easily when I drank.
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:I'm not sure why that was, but it.
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:I, I literally couldn't remember
conversations sometimes, and then
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:I would fill and think, well, what
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
What did I say?
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:The fear or the beer fear.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Ugh.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
No, thank you.
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:So tell me a bit about you now then.
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:So you joined that group and you stopped.
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:What was your biggest
challenge when you stopped?
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:Was there anything that you
found extremely difficult?
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:Did you have any tools that you used?
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:what was the story at that point?
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646:
So I stopped in,:
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Mm-hmm.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646:
June the 21st, and I.
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:The first thing I did was I just
read and I loved, quit lit, so I just
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:read as much as I could because I
had found in the past on the times
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:when I the times when I'd stayed.
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:So it was when I was reading a
book, which I suppose is kind of
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:a bit like community, isn't it?
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:That you know, you are hearing
somebody else talk and you, and it's
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:And so I read a lot.
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:I also went to a lot of meetings online.
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:In fact, in the early days, I went to
every meeting that I could get to, and
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:it really, really helped me because,
you know, I didn't share straight away.
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:And then once I started sharing
it, I think they wished I hadn't.
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:But I was just by this point, because
I'd tried so many times to stop in
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:the past and it had never stuck.
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:I was terrified.
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:Of going back there and just so delighted
because it had been such a burden that
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:I was definitely on the pink cloud.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yes.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: I was
absolutely delighted to be sober.
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:And so I went to every meeting I could.
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:I spoke to my friend Linda a lot, you
know, because she had a lot longer
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:sobriety than me and she understood.
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:I listened to podcasts.
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:I think what you need to do is you've
got to, because there's so much
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:negativity, it's ridiculous that I even
have to say this, but there's so much
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:negativity out there when people decide
to give up alcohol, you are treated
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:like, there's something wrong with you.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Mm-hmm.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: And
so it's really important that
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:you are around people who
understand and feel the same way.
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:So this is why, being in sober groups and
talking to sober people was so important.
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:And I would say that is what got me sober.
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:And also the fact that, again, when you
build these relationships and friendships
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:with people in sober groups, you do
have, a certain amount of accountability.
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:Because you feel like, you know, I used
to have nightmares that I drank again.
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:And how would I tell them?
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:Because you don't wanna let them down.
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:and also I just was like, with my
children, I was really honest and
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:I just said, it makes me unhappy.
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:And so I had accountability to them.
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:I mean, towards the end my
daughter hated me drinking.
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:And it was just getting as much
information in as possible,
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Hmm.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: information that
would make it stick and a positive thing.
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:Whereas before I had, after I'd been
to aa, you know, before I relapsed, I
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:removed every number I'd been given at aa.
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:So I was definitely planning it I just
made sure I was around people who.
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:understood why I wanted to stop so that
I couldn't talk myself out of it, which
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:is what I'd done before, because I didn't
want the label of being overdramatic,
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:you know, and that I'd stopped when I
didn't need to, which again is ridiculous.
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:We shouldn't need an excuse
to stop drinking alcohol.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: You
almost feel like you need to justify it,
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: get
that quite a lot as well, because of the
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:way that I drank and because I had kind
of like, it was always fun and it, you
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:know, to most of the time it was fun.
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:To my friends for me to be drinking,
unless they were trying to get me home or
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
like rescue me from something.
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:yeah, also you do, I did find that I
had to justify why I wanted to stop.
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:I still do find myself doing that
sometimes when people say, oh,
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:you don't drink, and it is like
you're a complete leper, but I.
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:I started really early.
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:I would blog a lot on sober baristas and
whenever I blogged, I signed it off with
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:I don't drink because I had an experience,
probably about a month into not drinking
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:where I had gone to, I won't say the name
of the hotel, but a famous brand of hotel
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:and I was staying there with friends.
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:Friends who drank, and we had
gone back there after dinner.
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:And I asked for a hot chocolate and.
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:He said to me, oh, I've
turned the machine off.
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:Why can't you just have a proper drink?
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:Is what
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Oh,
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: to me.
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:The bartender
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646:
that's appalling.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: and I was
kind of affronted and said, well, because
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:I don't drink, and as soon as I said
it, I was like, oh, I quite like that.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: I got
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
up to you about it.
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:he actually did me a little bit of a favor
because I blogged about that the next day
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:and I was like, right, that's gonna be.
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:Line I don't drink, which is why all
of my podcasts are signed off by it.
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:All of my blogs are signed off by
it because it tells me again and
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:again that I don't, and that that's a
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: thing.
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:it is a very positive thing 'cause
it's changed my life measurably.
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:I mean, I have a great life now, and I'm
accountable for everything that I do.
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:there's none of that
nonsense that used to go on.
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:so yeah, it's mad that you
have to justify it, isn't it?
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: It is
it's strange because when you
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:stop, I blocked as well, but I
their best stay where they are.
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:but you know, Myself, the way you grow
when you are not drinking is crazy.
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:Like the patience I have now.
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:I'm still not an angel, but
you know, and I'm able to.
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:Have discussions in a more mature way.
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:And I just know that I have done
a lot of work on myself, which, I
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:don't wanna sound, all airy fairy,
but you do when you stop drinking
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:because you've got all this time.
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:But also you do have to look at why
you drank like you did, and what
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:were you trying to escape from.
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:And so I definitely, as a
person have changed but it
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:hasn't just made my life better.
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:It's made my family's life better.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: you
know people don't realize how
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:much of a change it can be.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:Well, because you start to know
yourself a bit better and you
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:deal with things, don't you?
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:So, you know, like for example, I
experienced my dad's death when I
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:was sober and it was really awful and
it was really painful, But I felt it
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:because it was meant to be like, I
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
go and numb it out.
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:So you start to know yourself and how
you can deal with situations I'm far
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:from perfect and I can still sometimes
use my temper and I can still sometimes
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:get down and all of those things.
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:But I think just as a general,
there is a calmness about me.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Mm.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
existed before.
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:I feel calmer underlying it all
feel like it'll be all right.
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:And when
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: I never
felt like it was gonna be all right.
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:I always felt like something
was gonna go wrong.
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:even on the lovely days that I, we
had planned,, if we were going for
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:like a big picnic with friends or
something, somewhere in me, I'd be like.
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:What am I gonna do?
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah,
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: what am
I gonna do on this lovely day to ruin it?
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: exactly.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
things, but that's how I felt.
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:I just thought of myself in such a
negative way, and I don't do that anymore.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Good.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: You
know, we all do sometimes, don't we?
534
:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
I don't think I'm this awful
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:person anymore, that's for sure.
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:And that was a big thing for me to
realize actually, you are all right.
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:You are not this terrible.
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:Woman that you told yourself
you were all those times.
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:It's quite sad in a way, isn't
it, that we do that to ourselves.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646:
It really is, but I think as
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:well when you stop drinking.
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:you stop being on the back foot
with people because now I have the
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:confidence in who I am and what I am.
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:and I know what my faults are,
but I also know what they're not.
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:Whereas when I was drinking because
I felt so guilty about how I drank,
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:I would take on anything anybody said
about me as fact, and I would always be,
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:willing to accept it and be in the wrong.
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:Because I was feeling so awful about
myself because I drank too much
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:and in a way I wasn't happy about.
551
:And so now I start on a level playing
field every time because I know more about
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:me and I'm much more confident in myself
and that has been in work, everything.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: so yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
you, no, you're no longer
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:apologizing for who you are, are you?
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:Because you've
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: That's it.
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:Yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: for.
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:And it, there is definitely a
confidence that comes with that.
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:That's just underlying, isn't it?
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:it's such a better place to be.
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:Definitely.
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:so I suppose before we finish up, it
would be really lovely to just hear what
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:would your advice be Like, let's say
if you were talking to yourself when
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:you were in that gray area and you were
like battling every day with like, you
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:know, trying to get life done, having a
bottle of wine and having that horrible.
569
:feeling in the morning after doing
that again, what would you say to
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:yourself if you could tell yourself then
what you know now, what would it be?
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:Because someone is sitting there
like you were, and if they can
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:hear it might just be the thing.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: I think I would
say that,, if you are wondering about your
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:drinking, then there probably is an issue.
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:However, if you are still
very undecided on it.
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:Why don't you stop drinking for a
little while and see if you feel better
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:without the alcohol in your life.
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:And if you do, then you
know it's the answer.
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:and just, you know, just have a break
for a while and see if that helps.
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:And then, you know, like we say one
day at a time, but the way that if,
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:if you, they're feeling like I was
feeling it couldn't be any worse.
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:So, you know, I'd say just,,
try it without, and see , why
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:are you clinging onto it?
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:What is it, Ben?
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:How is it benefiting your life?
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:And if it's not, then give out.
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:Uh, I'm just gonna say give alcohol a go.
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:That wouldn't be very good.
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:Give sobriety a go.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
No, don't do that.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646:
Yeah, please don't do that.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: It
might be worth though, joining something
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:like joining a social group, and you
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Absolutely.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646:
is that something that people
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:can join if they want to?
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yes,
it's the S Os Collective, the
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:Sova Online Sisters Collective.
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:It's on, we've got a website,
www.thesoscollective.com,
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:and we, are also on Instagram.
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:you can just, register and
then we'll be in touch.
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:we've got, Eight meetings a week.
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:at the moment we've got groups
on WhatsApp, and there's gonna
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:be courses and things coming up.
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:we're still quite new, so
we're just working on that.
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:and also I am on Instagram clicks
hyphen soba if you wanted to follow me.
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:I just put my musings
about sobriety on there.
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:But yeah, I definitely think that.
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:Community is the answer.
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:If you, you know, if you really,
if you want to get, so then it, it
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:is the thing that worked for me.
612
:Definitely.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:And I would agree with that.
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:When you are with sober people, you are
hearing the right things all of the time.
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:You're not battling against something.
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:So when you're thinking, oh, I feel
great, and you tell your sober friend,
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:they say, oh yeah, I felt great as well.
619
:And this is, you know, you all of a
sudden you've got these shared brilliant
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:experiences that you can talk about.
621
:Which feed into you realizing that this
isn't a difficult thing to do, this
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:is a really proud choice, and that you
can do it because it's a good thing.
623
:You don't, all of a sudden you're
not losing out so much are you?
624
:Because you are not the one person
sat in the corner going, oh,
625
:I'll just have Diet Coke, please.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Yeah.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: by
lots of people who are buzzing about
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:it and they're all on pink clouds
and it's, it is, it's a great bit
629
:of advice, so thank you for that.
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:, So I'm gonna say goodbye to
you now, so thank you so much.
631
:Thank you, for all of your wise
words and sharing your lovely story.
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:I think it will be inspirational
to somebody out there, and I really
633
:appreciate that you've come on and
done that because it's not the easiest
634
:thing to do, to talk about this.
635
:Publicly and I think you doing it
and me doing it and all of the other
636
:guests that do it is just a great
message to get across that it's
637
:actually a really good thing to be
sober and that's where we'll end.
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:So thank you so much.
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:beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Thank you.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Beth,
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:. beth_1_04-29-2025_180646: Thank you.
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:vic-host813_1_04-29-2025_180646: Bye.
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